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	<title>Comments on: Internet forums may need to censor financial talk &#8211;  Au Gov</title>
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		<title>By: brand clothing</title>
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		<dc:creator>brand clothing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 05:23:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is understandable that the good governor of South Carolina may need to make a hasty exit from politics </description>
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		<title>By: Sean Carmody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean Carmody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 23:35:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Based on the case &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.asic.gov.au/asic/asic.nsf/byheadline/01%2F311+Stephen+Matthews+found+guilty+of+contempt?opendocument&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;ASIC v Matthews (2000)&lt;/a&gt; referred to in the paper, I would say that internet sites are already covered by licensing requirements, should they be used to provide advice. In that sense, this paper is not really anything new. It essentially confirms that approach, noting that they will not be carving out internet discussion from consideration.

While the notion of &quot;advice&quot; is certainly broad, in practice I think that only fairly clear-cut cases would be caught in the net. My own blog frequently touches on matters financial, but I doubt that ASIC would ever consider it close enough to advice to be very interested in my. If I am right in this assumption, I think it is reasonable for ASIC to keep internet sites within their purview, otherwise financial advisers could simply switch all their communications to a web-site to avoid AFSL requirements.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Based on the case <a href="http://www.asic.gov.au/asic/asic.nsf/byheadline/01%2F311+Stephen+Matthews+found+guilty+of+contempt?opendocument" rel="nofollow">ASIC v Matthews (2000)</a> referred to in the paper, I would say that internet sites are already covered by licensing requirements, should they be used to provide advice. In that sense, this paper is not really anything new. It essentially confirms that approach, noting that they will not be carving out internet discussion from consideration.</p>
<p>While the notion of &#8220;advice&#8221; is certainly broad, in practice I think that only fairly clear-cut cases would be caught in the net. My own blog frequently touches on matters financial, but I doubt that ASIC would ever consider it close enough to advice to be very interested in my. If I am right in this assumption, I think it is reasonable for ASIC to keep internet sites within their purview, otherwise financial advisers could simply switch all their communications to a web-site to avoid AFSL requirements.</p>
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		<title>By: Naomi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Naomi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 11:07:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the definition of what constitutes financial advice is extremely broad, including &quot;implied&quot; financial advice. Financial advice under the current situation is any information that could lead a person towards choosing one option over another whether it be direct or indirect. 
 
the main problem here is that up until now ASIC hasn&#039;t been enforcing the law on average ordinary people who give casual financial advice all the time 
 
up until now it appears that they only enforce the law against people who actually make money from giving financial advice (for example, employees of businesses that don&#039;t personally have an AFSL yet give &quot;advice&quot; while on the job). When I worked for a bank and didn&#039;t have a license, it made it extremely inconvenient on what information I could give customers and how the information had to be presented. 
 
I think it&#039;s fair enough that people who don&#039;t have an AFSL should include a disclaimer along with their advice. It&#039;s even more inconvenient than it is already if ASIC tries to stop everyone who gives financial advice without an AFSL (which is almost all of us). And what about the mums, singletons and entrepreneurs on news.com.au blogs who give financial advice all the time (and get paid for blogging about financial issues)? 
 
But right now, yes everyone is technically breaking the law because we all give financial advice, and especially it is almost impossible to not give implied financial advice. Only up until now no one cared because we didn&#039;t directly financially benefit from it so it hasn&#039;t been enforced. 
 
Prepare to feel inconvenienced by a law that doesn&#039;t have the protective loopholes and exceptions it needs to make sure that the average joe doesn&#039;t come under fire for giving his opinion. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the definition of what constitutes financial advice is extremely broad, including &quot;implied&quot; financial advice. Financial advice under the current situation is any information that could lead a person towards choosing one option over another whether it be direct or indirect. </p>
<p>the main problem here is that up until now ASIC hasn&#039;t been enforcing the law on average ordinary people who give casual financial advice all the time </p>
<p>up until now it appears that they only enforce the law against people who actually make money from giving financial advice (for example, employees of businesses that don&#039;t personally have an AFSL yet give &quot;advice&quot; while on the job). When I worked for a bank and didn&#039;t have a license, it made it extremely inconvenient on what information I could give customers and how the information had to be presented. </p>
<p>I think it&#039;s fair enough that people who don&#039;t have an AFSL should include a disclaimer along with their advice. It&#039;s even more inconvenient than it is already if ASIC tries to stop everyone who gives financial advice without an AFSL (which is almost all of us). And what about the mums, singletons and entrepreneurs on news.com.au blogs who give financial advice all the time (and get paid for blogging about financial issues)? </p>
<p>But right now, yes everyone is technically breaking the law because we all give financial advice, and especially it is almost impossible to not give implied financial advice. Only up until now no one cared because we didn&#039;t directly financially benefit from it so it hasn&#039;t been enforced. </p>
<p>Prepare to feel inconvenienced by a law that doesn&#039;t have the protective loopholes and exceptions it needs to make sure that the average joe doesn&#039;t come under fire for giving his opinion.</p>
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