Comments on: The political vultures circle as Victoria Burns http://blog.websinthe.org/2009/02/10/the-political-vultures-circle-as-victoria-burns/ Kieran Salsone: Freelance writer, blogger, cartoonist and content generator. Wed, 18 Aug 2010 06:30:38 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Michael Meloni http://blog.websinthe.org/2009/02/10/the-political-vultures-circle-as-victoria-burns/comment-page-1/#comment-93 Michael Meloni Tue, 10 Feb 2009 10:37:54 +0000 http://blog.websinthe.org/?p=474#comment-93 I don't think Senator Conroy used the fires as a smoke screen for his press release. Today was an important cyber-safety event across the entire country and his department was yet to issue a press release. The day before is an appropriate and common time to do so and considering its contents were in no way insensitive to bushfire victims, I don't see a problem. Content filtering - as well as the other initiatives - are often mentioned in all DBCDE cyber-safety PR. On this occasion it was mentioned only once and very briefly. The Government mentioning policy in a press release is not something we should throw our arms up about. Save that for when they don't include relevant information and when they try to hide it. That's when it's a problem. Time can be better spent either fighting the clean feed or helping those affected by the bushfire. No one is doing anybody a favour kicking up a storm about this non-issue. Mike :D I don't think Senator Conroy used the fires as a smoke screen for his press release. Today was an important cyber-safety event across the entire country and his department was yet to issue a press release. The day before is an appropriate and common time to do so and considering its contents were in no way insensitive to bushfire victims, I don't see a problem.

Content filtering – as well as the other initiatives – are often mentioned in all DBCDE cyber-safety PR. On this occasion it was mentioned only once and very briefly. The Government mentioning policy in a press release is not something we should throw our arms up about. Save that for when they don't include relevant information and when they try to hide it. That's when it's a problem.

Time can be better spent either fighting the clean feed or helping those affected by the bushfire. No one is doing anybody a favour kicking up a storm about this non-issue.

Mike :D

]]> By: Jason Brown http://blog.websinthe.org/2009/02/10/the-political-vultures-circle-as-victoria-burns/comment-page-1/#comment-92 Jason Brown Tue, 10 Feb 2009 10:29:15 +0000 http://blog.websinthe.org/?p=474#comment-92 > false religion tautology is tautologous, redundant and says the same thing more than once. > false religion

tautology is tautologous, redundant and says the same thing more than once.

]]> By: Websinthe http://blog.websinthe.org/2009/02/10/the-political-vultures-circle-as-victoria-burns/comment-page-1/#comment-90 Websinthe Tue, 10 Feb 2009 10:14:34 +0000 http://blog.websinthe.org/?p=474#comment-90 That's a good bunch of questions, a bunch that I will try to follow up after #btub tomorrow. That's a good bunch of questions, a bunch that I will try to follow up after #btub tomorrow.

]]> By: George Hall http://blog.websinthe.org/2009/02/10/the-political-vultures-circle-as-victoria-burns/comment-page-1/#comment-89 George Hall Tue, 10 Feb 2009 09:59:00 +0000 http://blog.websinthe.org/?p=474#comment-89 I'm not surprised some fundamentalists stuck the boots in. But I remind Catch The Fire ministries of the Golden Rule which also includes "Love your neighbor." And right now, our neighbors, friends and families need REAL expressions of that Golden Rule. How many of that ministry were even out fighting fires or handling the aftermath? How many of them even tried helping provide updates and information via social media and other media to assist those requiring it during the four days of continued fire threat? How many actually donating either money or goods to assist the homeless and distraught in this situation? Politics is never far behind false religion, either. Less hypocrisy in this time, thanks, and more real help. I'm not surprised some fundamentalists stuck the boots in. But I remind Catch The Fire ministries of the Golden Rule which also includes "Love your neighbor." And right now, our neighbors, friends and families need REAL expressions of that Golden Rule.

How many of that ministry were even out fighting fires or handling the aftermath? How many of them even tried helping provide updates and information via social media and other media to assist those requiring it during the four days of continued fire threat? How many actually donating either money or goods to assist the homeless and distraught in this situation?

Politics is never far behind false religion, either.

Less hypocrisy in this time, thanks, and more real help.

]]> By: Websinthe http://blog.websinthe.org/2009/02/10/the-political-vultures-circle-as-victoria-burns/comment-page-1/#comment-88 Websinthe Tue, 10 Feb 2009 09:30:50 +0000 http://blog.websinthe.org/?p=474#comment-88 Wow, the utter hatchet job she would make of the situation would make me so proud. Plus Naomi Robson playing dress ups is that delicious kind of wrong. Wow, the utter hatchet job she would make of the situation would make me so proud.

Plus Naomi Robson playing dress ups is that delicious kind of wrong.

]]> By: Websinthe http://blog.websinthe.org/2009/02/10/the-political-vultures-circle-as-victoria-burns/comment-page-1/#comment-87 Websinthe Tue, 10 Feb 2009 09:27:46 +0000 http://blog.websinthe.org/?p=474#comment-87 I have actually read the Crikey article but it was about 4 hours after I wrote this one. I felt that I needed to sit on this until the worst of the fires had died down. It's a good article too. Wilson Tuckey's opinion never really meant much to me, though thanks for pointing him out too. I have actually read the Crikey article but it was about 4 hours after I wrote this one. I felt that I needed to sit on this until the worst of the fires had died down. It's a good article too.

Wilson Tuckey's opinion never really meant much to me, though thanks for pointing him out too.

]]> By: Jason Brown http://blog.websinthe.org/2009/02/10/the-political-vultures-circle-as-victoria-burns/comment-page-1/#comment-86 Jason Brown Tue, 10 Feb 2009 09:26:24 +0000 http://blog.websinthe.org/?p=474#comment-86 Well, at least we haven't had Naomi Robson turn up in a firefighters uniform yet. Well, at least we haven't had Naomi Robson turn up in a firefighters uniform yet.

]]> By: Websinthe http://blog.websinthe.org/2009/02/10/the-political-vultures-circle-as-victoria-burns/comment-page-1/#comment-85 Websinthe Tue, 10 Feb 2009 09:25:19 +0000 http://blog.websinthe.org/?p=474#comment-85 You're right, it's the timing that's inappropriate here. I think I read something on Cracked today about social panic stories that were, to some degree manufactured or exaggerated, and led to a media circus purely for the sake of having one. You're right, it's the timing that's inappropriate here.

I think I read something on Cracked today about social panic stories that were, to some degree manufactured or exaggerated, and led to a media circus purely for the sake of having one.

]]> By: Paul http://blog.websinthe.org/2009/02/10/the-political-vultures-circle-as-victoria-burns/comment-page-1/#comment-84 Paul Tue, 10 Feb 2009 09:23:52 +0000 http://blog.websinthe.org/?p=474#comment-84 Wilson Tuckey used the bushfires to argue for more logging of forests: <a href="http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/tuckey-points-finger-at-parties/2009/02/09/1234027956206.html" target="_blank">http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/tuckey-points...</a> Similar article to yours now on Crikey: <a href="http://www.crikey.com.au/Politics/20090210-Wilson-Tuckey-you-idiot.html" target="_blank">http://www.crikey.com.au/Politics/20090210-Wilson...</a> Wilson Tuckey used the bushfires to argue for more logging of forests:
http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/tuckey-points...

Similar article to yours now on Crikey:
http://www.crikey.com.au/Politics/20090210-Wilson...

]]> By: nomadiqueMC http://blog.websinthe.org/2009/02/10/the-political-vultures-circle-as-victoria-burns/comment-page-1/#comment-83 nomadiqueMC Tue, 10 Feb 2009 09:19:10 +0000 http://blog.websinthe.org/?p=474#comment-83 "Whether or not you agree with ... it seems to be a little soon to start waving your arms and screaming..." pretty much sums it up for me. political and religious ideologuing is par for the course. it's the timing that is insensitive, and just wrong. i was having a similar conversation with another friend about the media 'coverage' of the events, and i thought that the commercial TV stations have been fairly sensitive about it, for the most part anyway. others disagree. i just think that we have to accept that with our thirst to know, and know *now*, we have to accept that a little bit of voyeurism creeps in. but, like politicising the issue while it's still so raw, we cross the line when we *create* the spectacle to deliberately *attract* voyeurs (of the wrong kind, if there is such a thing). "Whether or not you agree with … it seems to be a little soon to start waving your arms and screaming…" pretty much sums it up for me. political and religious ideologuing is par for the course. it's the timing that is insensitive, and just wrong.

i was having a similar conversation with another friend about the media 'coverage' of the events, and i thought that the commercial TV stations have been fairly sensitive about it, for the most part anyway. others disagree. i just think that we have to accept that with our thirst to know, and know *now*, we have to accept that a little bit of voyeurism creeps in.

but, like politicising the issue while it's still so raw, we cross the line when we *create* the spectacle to deliberately *attract* voyeurs (of the wrong kind, if there is such a thing).

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